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- Start dateThursday at 11:20 AM
The new Player's Handbook contains 12 character classes, each with 4 subclasses.
The new Player's Handbook contains 12 character classes, each with 4 subclasses, making 48 in total.
- Barbarian: Path of the... Berserker, Wild Heart, World Tree, Zealot.
- Bard: College of... Dance, Gamour, Lore, Valor.
- Cleric: Life, Light, Trickery, War domains.
- Druid: Circle of the... Land, Moon, Sea, Stars.
- Fighter: Battle Master, Champion, Eldritch Knight, Psi Warrior.
- Monk: Warrior of... Mercy, Shadow, The Elements, The Open Hand.
- Paladin: Oath of... Devotion, Glory, The Ancients, Vengeance.
- Ranger: Beast Master, Fey Wanderer, Gloom Stalker, Hunter.
- Rogue: Arcane Trickster, Assassin, Soulknife, Thief.
- Sorcerer: Aberrant Sorcery, Clockwork Sorcery, Draconic Sorcery, Wild Magic.
- Warlock: Archfey Patron, Celestial Patron, Fiend Patron, Great Old One Patron.
- Wizard: Abjurer, Diviner, Evoker, Illusionist.
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- Thursday at 12:56 PM
- #2
I like it, but I hope additional classes for the cleric and the wizard are released soon. Both are so attached to the concepts of domains and schools of magic that it's weird creating a cleric of Mystra, for example, and having to fit it in some of these four domains.
Oofta
Legend
- Thursday at 1:05 PM
- #3
Jolly Ruby said:
I like it, but I hope additional classes for the cleric and the wizard are released soon. Both are so attached to the concepts of domains and schools of magic that it's weird creating a cleric of Mystra, for example, and having to fit it in some of these four domains.
Most subclasses from the old books should still be compatible with the new rules, but cleric is a bit of an oddball because they chose their domain at first level.
I wouldn't be surprised if book of player's options with many of the old subclasses redone comes out as one of the first supplements next year.
Horwath
Legend
- Thursday at 2:32 PM
- #4
Jolly Ruby said:
I like it, but I hope additional classes for the cleric and the wizard are released soon. Both are so attached to the concepts of domains and schools of magic that it's weird creating a cleric of Mystra, for example, and having to fit it in some of these four domains.
Honestly, we could get away from spell schools specializations for wizards.
War magic,
Scribe,
chronomagic,
graviturgy,
elementalist,
mindbender,
force mage,
all could work better not being tied down to single school.
Morrus
Well, that was fun
Staff member
- Thursday at 2:34 PM
- #5
Horwath said:
Honestly, we could get away from spell schools specializations for wizards.
War magic,
Scribe,
chronomagic,
graviturgy,
elementalist,
mindbender,
force mage,all could work better not being tied down to single school.
Personally I'd go something like:
Antiquarian
Arcanist
Court Magician
Enclavist
Geomancer
Last Raven
Mage
Necromancer
Oozemancer
Pyromancer
Street Magician
Warmage
Meech17
WotC President Runner-Up.
- Thursday at 2:35 PM
- #6
Horwath said:
Honestly, we could get away from spell schools specializations for wizards.
War magic,
Scribe,
chronomagic,
graviturgy,
elementalist,
mindbender,
force mage,all could work better not being tied down to single school.
I like the concept of the spell schools and specializations.. But I agree.. I'd rather just move away from them entirely rather than go at them half-co*cked as they have been for as long as I've played D&D.
It's a cool idea, that ultimately doesn't matter. So if they don't want to make it matter, ax it.
fuindordm
Adventurer
- Thursday at 2:41 PM
- #7
Not a bad selection.
Clockwork sorcerer to counterbalance the aberrant sorcerer is a good choice.
Celestial warlock is a bit odd from a worldbuilding perspective. Why would celestial powers create a warlock instead of a cleric or paladin?
Aldarc
Legend
- Thursday at 2:47 PM
- #8
Jolly Ruby said:
I like it, but I hope additional classes for the cleric and the wizard are released soon. Both are so attached to the concepts of domains and schools of magic that it's weird creating a cleric of Mystra, for example, and having to fit it in some of these four domains.
I would probably pick "Life" if I just wanted to lean into being a more generic Cleric, and I would pick "Light" if I wanted to possibly pick up some fiery arcane spells like Fireball.
S
sevenbastard
Hero
- Thursday at 2:52 PM
- #9
I was never going to be happy with this list and complaining about it here is not going to help.
Give me the will power to keep deleting my rants and to recognize that different folks like different things and no matter how much I hate X or Y these make folks happy.
Belen
Adventurer
- Thursday at 2:58 PM
- #10
Morrus said:
The new Player's Handbook contains 12 character classes, each with 4 subclasses, making 48 in total.
- Bard: College of... Dance, Glamour, Lore, Valor.
Did they get rid of the Blade Bard or is that Valor?
Overall, Bard subclasses look bad.
